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a deep laugh that you run the right track. no laughter meant no. >> overlooks lake the tide is going against republicans. >> well, i think in the short political terms, yes. the polling shows republicans will be blamed. but remember, this is the obama era. it's going to go down in his economy. i asked people, who was speaker of the house during the great depression when roosevelt was president? i'll give a hundred dollars to anyone who can name for the speaker of the house was in the critical first hundred days. [inaudible] henry thomas remy. there's a name in the history books. point being speaker boehner is an important player in the sense that they can't, but it's upon this job to lead and define. so if there's negative consequences here, particularly in the economy, it's going to be in the obama era things didn't get fixed. who is the australian finance minister who said the united states is one budget deal away from being a great country? there's a lot of people in business suits inc. we are poised to do some really good
a deep laugh that you run the right track. no laughter meant no. >> overlooks lake the tide is going against republicans. >> well, i think in the short political terms, yes. the polling shows republicans will be blamed. but remember, this is the obama era. it's going to go down in his economy. i asked people, who was speaker of the house during the great depression when roosevelt was president? i'll give a hundred dollars to anyone who can name for the speaker of the house was in...
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are the we go to, catholic church, right next to it is a storefront, obama organizing for america. there in the 12, 14 months before the election. what could they possibly be doing? and so -- >> they were registering voters spent they were registering voters, identifying voters. i have admiration for the do. that's what we should do. on the other hand, i think from, other for the say people are very anxious, and particularly about the opportunity to stay in the class or get to the middle class. for whatever reason at the end of the day, which is as a movement. our ideas with the right ideas for those impatient and that so we need to do better at. >> what can republicans learned from obama? >> look, whoever has the high ground on technology is going to win. it's just a fact. we can never let that happen. you want to make sure for a technological point, you are state-of-the-art. and communicating your message, identifying people, ensuring that not only are the supporters but they are voters. a supporter is not a voter. >> how do you regain -- >> i think investing. it's there. they ca
are the we go to, catholic church, right next to it is a storefront, obama organizing for america. there in the 12, 14 months before the election. what could they possibly be doing? and so -- >> they were registering voters spent they were registering voters, identifying voters. i have admiration for the do. that's what we should do. on the other hand, i think from, other for the say people are very anxious, and particularly about the opportunity to stay in the class or get to the middle...
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issues the political observer, the obama turnout. there's this restaurant near the church that we go to, a catholic church that right next door is a storefront, obama for america organizing before the election, seen what are they doing? what could they possibly be doing? now we know. >> they're registering voters. >> they're registering voters and turning them out in ways they never have before. it admiration and can't wait to copy and improve it and bring it forward. on the other hand, florida is a state that people are very interested about the future and particularly their opportunity to stay in the middle class or get to the middle class. for whatever reason at the end of the day, which did not do a job of convincing people are desperate irradiate is. >> what can publicans learn from >> whoever has the high ground is going to win. we could never allow that to happen. i think that's important. one lesson we want to make sure from a technological perspective your state-of-the-art in communicating your message to people in identifyi
issues the political observer, the obama turnout. there's this restaurant near the church that we go to, a catholic church that right next door is a storefront, obama for america organizing before the election, seen what are they doing? what could they possibly be doing? now we know. >> they're registering voters. >> they're registering voters and turning them out in ways they never have before. it admiration and can't wait to copy and improve it and bring it forward. on the other...
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the gop is right. this is an serious proposal and that obama seriously expects them to accept it. expects him to give him a proposal. it is a serious pressage though. obama is no longer dealing with himself. now that gop leaked his offer, the next question is clear. what is their counter offer? and that gets to the real game behind the game here. the difference between what obama wants out of the fiscal negotiations and what republicans want out of the negotiations is as john noted at new york magazine that obama's demand it raise taxes on the rich is popular. he again just won an election. the gop's demand it cut medicare spending is unpopular. people don't like it. so what the gop wants is for obama to propose the medicare cuts for them. they want him to take the heat. democrats find this ridiculous, i think is the right word. given that the obama administration would happily raise taxes without cutting medicare but republicans will only raise taxes if we cut medicare. obama won't negotiate on his own and republicans are now scared to negotiate with him. joining me now is jared
the gop is right. this is an serious proposal and that obama seriously expects them to accept it. expects him to give him a proposal. it is a serious pressage though. obama is no longer dealing with himself. now that gop leaked his offer, the next question is clear. what is their counter offer? and that gets to the real game behind the game here. the difference between what obama wants out of the fiscal negotiations and what republicans want out of the negotiations is as john noted at new york...
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president obama was on the wrong side of it then. definitely headed -- leading the country in a bad direction now. he had every reason to try to figure out a way to help the republicans, help get them to a deal so everyone could not have this anxiety leading up to the fiscal cliff. he is exacerbated the anxiety with the ridiculous plan. mitch mcconnell does not show emotion about anything ever. he has the best poker face. geithner's proposal must have been absurd that he laughed out loud would have been fan tast tic to see. >> andrea: there is a second stimulus. all spending and taxing. how would you feel if the republicans walked away? something you celebrate? >> bob: if they walked away permanently celebrate it particularly. look, the republicans, the question i've got here is why are you putting at risk all the things you talk about? the recession and the dire things, for the sake of people at the top 2%. i don't understand that. >> eric: you are not being fair. >> bob: what do you mean? >> eric: that there will be a recession if
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. >> all right. thanks so much, eamon javers. meanwhile, the marriott ceo was one of the ceos in the room with president obama this week in the fiscal cliff meetings. many of the executives saying that the white house sounded resounding resoundingly reasonable when describing plans to address the debt and deficit. >> so was this proposal the white house made yesterday with more spending and very few spending cuts, was that what mr. sorenson was expecting out of the gate? he joins us on the telephone with his thoughts. good to have you with us. >> glad to be with you. >> when you were with the other ceos at the white house, does it jive with what we're hearing about that made mitch mcconnell laugh yesterday? are those two plans one in the same? >> well, i'm hopeful that what's happening in the media is posturing by both parties and doesn't reflect where either party thinks a deal will end up. i think what the president talked with us about on wednesday afternoon was much more a sense of where things ought to end up, and that was,
. >> all right. thanks so much, eamon javers. meanwhile, the marriott ceo was one of the ceos in the room with president obama this week in the fiscal cliff meetings. many of the executives saying that the white house sounded resounding resoundingly reasonable when describing plans to address the debt and deficit. >> so was this proposal the white house made yesterday with more spending and very few spending cuts, was that what mr. sorenson was expecting out of the gate? he joins us...
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right now. there's no point in blasting obama. just a counter offer. i want to read from today's newspaper. this is what mitch mcconnell said. "higher medicare premiums for the wealthy, an increase in the medicare eligibility age, and a slowing of costs of living increases for programs like social security. and then republicans would agree to include more tax revenue in the deal but not from higher tax rates." now, let's just look at this for a second. we'll go to you first, nan. he wants medicare eligibility, he wants medicaid reforms, he wants spending cuts. then he'll talk revenues. that seems reasonable to me. is he going to do it? will the republicans come back with their own counter offer? >> well, certainly larry those are elements of a long-term approach to our enormous debt. it's a crushing debt. it hams our vulnerability across the world. i think we should look very seriously yet again and the speaker's mentioned it at the 2010 health law, affordable care act. that is a massive cost weight on the american people. it is a deeply unpopular issu
right now. there's no point in blasting obama. just a counter offer. i want to read from today's newspaper. this is what mitch mcconnell said. "higher medicare premiums for the wealthy, an increase in the medicare eligibility age, and a slowing of costs of living increases for programs like social security. and then republicans would agree to include more tax revenue in the deal but not from higher tax rates." now, let's just look at this for a second. we'll go to you first, nan. he...
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and so, right now we are almost nowhere. >> chris: president obama accusing republicans of being willing to raise taxes on 98% of americans, while speaker boehner says it is the president who is unwilling to compromise. and it is time for our sunday group, bill kristol of the weekly standard. mara liasson of national public radio, republican strategist ed rollins and former democratic senator evan byah. you heard for the last half-hour, tim geithner and john boehner, each say they are being reasonable and it is the other side's fault. bill you have been through your share of washington negotiations. what strikes you about what you heard today? >> geithner is in a stronger position, in the respect. the president is net and high can maneuver and say, $1.6 trillion and, they say, $1.1 trillion and speaker beginner has 235 members, and they don't hop to it when he decides to move, he's in a much tougher position structurally and we have seen the history of the show downs, the white house usually wins, and, the main reason why is, he is a unitary executive and, the majority party in congress
and so, right now we are almost nowhere. >> chris: president obama accusing republicans of being willing to raise taxes on 98% of americans, while speaker boehner says it is the president who is unwilling to compromise. and it is time for our sunday group, bill kristol of the weekly standard. mara liasson of national public radio, republican strategist ed rollins and former democratic senator evan byah. you heard for the last half-hour, tim geithner and john boehner, each say they are...
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where is obama, the chomp of women's rights -- the champon of women's rights? >> the obama administration and the left in the country believe so much that the muslim brotherhood is a very moderate movement, and the leader morsi is a very moderate statesman. this is why they do not believe that implementing the law will oppress women in egypt. it's like burying their heads in the sand, refusing to accept reality, and admit that everything that they believed about the muslim brotherhood and morsi is a lie. for them to admit that, it will force them to come up with different solutions to what we're facing in egypt, and they're not ready to face it. >> and we're funding them. that's another side. abbas, let me go to you. you have morsi. first the muslim brotherhood said they weren't going to run, and they ran. they got into power, targeting israel first, declaring them the number one enemy. now morsi is taking over the military and implementing shria law. will this be good for the egyptian people. >> shawn sean, we're going throa revolution in egypt. in a revolutio
where is obama, the chomp of women's rights -- the champon of women's rights? >> the obama administration and the left in the country believe so much that the muslim brotherhood is a very moderate movement, and the leader morsi is a very moderate statesman. this is why they do not believe that implementing the law will oppress women in egypt. it's like burying their heads in the sand, refusing to accept reality, and admit that everything that they believed about the muslim brotherhood and...
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president obama has been clear about it all along. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. you know, he talks, for example, about $800 billion worth of revenues, but he says he's going to do that by lowering rates. and when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> you see, if we lower these rates, then the job creators will go out there end and all this money to hire a bunch of people, and that's going to contribute more to the tax base. and gosh, we're just going to take care of all of our problems. we have tried this stuff, and it didn't work. when leaders mcconnell and boehner feed the base, it makes it harder for them to come around and later on lead their members towards a sane deal with the president of the united states and democrats who, by the way, won the election. let's bring in former virginia congressman, tom perriello, now the president and ceo of the center for american progress action fund. tom, good to have you with us tonight. >> always good to be here. >> you bet. have republican leaders boxed themselves in by catering to this fr
president obama has been clear about it all along. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. you know, he talks, for example, about $800 billion worth of revenues, but he says he's going to do that by lowering rates. and when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> you see, if we lower these rates, then the job creators will go out there end and all this money to hire a bunch of people, and that's going to contribute more to the tax base. and...
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running hard to the right in the primary. the opposing view is the gop's latino problem isn't based on immigration issues. there's a pew exit poll of hispanic voters taken in november found immigration isn't in the top four issues. is too much made a political issue how important it is to the political community? >> number one, if you ask latinos what is the most important thing, my job, the economy, educating my children, crime. before the latino audiences, political audiences will listen to you as a candidate. you first cannot be mean, nasty, spirited towards immigrants. if you are they simply shut you off. so i think the problem that the republicans had is latinos said you're being so unfair, you're being so anti-immigrant, we feel personally offended by that and plus it is part of our core value. they just don't listen, so i think it was critical to the republican message that people weren't listening, they weren't buying in because they won't tune in if you're in that mean. >> the "wall street journal" is reporting congr
running hard to the right in the primary. the opposing view is the gop's latino problem isn't based on immigration issues. there's a pew exit poll of hispanic voters taken in november found immigration isn't in the top four issues. is too much made a political issue how important it is to the political community? >> number one, if you ask latinos what is the most important thing, my job, the economy, educating my children, crime. before the latino audiences, political audiences will...
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that is the battle line in the republican party right now. the guys who want purity, more tea party, versus the guys who want a supermajority. no more obama cares. heritage versus crossroads. karl rove versus jim demint. pass me the popcorn. joining me, dave weigel of "slate" and msnbc contributor. dave, it is good to see you here tonight. >> good to see you, ezra. >> so is this what it kind of looks like? do you see demint and heritage as consolidating power here and making, and vying for leadership of the tea party wing of the party? >> no, i like the way that you put that. freedom works is going through an awkward patch right now. heritage has actually been expanding into that terrain long before any problems that occurred at freedom works. heritage in 2010, point out, launched heritage action, 501-c3 which is renting the floor space in the rest of the heritage building and has been aggressively campaigning. during the congressional voting season against republicans, getting them to vote their way on various bills. irritating a lot of peop
that is the battle line in the republican party right now. the guys who want purity, more tea party, versus the guys who want a supermajority. no more obama cares. heritage versus crossroads. karl rove versus jim demint. pass me the popcorn. joining me, dave weigel of "slate" and msnbc contributor. dave, it is good to see you here tonight. >> good to see you, ezra. >> so is this what it kind of looks like? do you see demint and heritage as consolidating power here and...
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what we did right. our sense is that 2012 was very much a beauty contest between mitt romney and barack obama. all of the issues that mattered so much in the 2010 election like health care, we didn't have that conversation. we think it should be a choice between fiscal responsibility and patient control over health care versus a bigger government solution. i think we could win that fight and i think 2014 is going to be more about issues and there's opportunities, i think, to increase the gains that we made in 2010. >> well, midterm elections are one thing and what -- and it's possible you could win arguments, but when more people vote, is it harder to win this conservative argument? >> well, mitt romney was hardly part of this new generation of fiscally responsible republicans that we've been repopulating the party with, but if you look forward to 2016, you're talking about some pretty interesting young dynamic people like marco rubio and rand paul and maybe scott walker. these are all political leaders
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"the ed show" starts right now. >>> good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" from new york. republicans say they are laughing at president obama's fiscal cliff offer. i'll show you how they are really crying. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> there are no shortage of pens in the white house. and i carry one around for emergency just in case. just waiting for the chance to use it to sign the bill to make sure people's taxes don't go up. >> the adult in the room continues his campaign to cut taxes for the middle class and john boehner keeps shooting spit balls. the latest on the stalemate and the democrat's upper hand. >>> mitch mcconnell gets ridiculous with his demands to weaken medicare. one of the architects of obama care responds tonight. >>> house republicans pass an immigration. bill democrats say is divisive and inferior. tonight, congressman javier pasara on why the latino community won't. be fooled. >>> the first fast food strike is historic. what you need to know about the lowest-paid workforce in the country. good
"the ed show" starts right now. >>> good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" from new york. republicans say they are laughing at president obama's fiscal cliff offer. i'll show you how they are really crying. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> there are no shortage of pens in the white house. and i carry one around for emergency just in case. just waiting for the chance to use it to sign the bill to make sure people's taxes don't...
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michelle obama. >> all right. there you go. that's it for this edition of "the daily rundown." coming up next, chris jansing. have a great weekend. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] campbell's green bean casserole. it's amazing what soup can do ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove ♪ i'd have nothing to lose [ male announcer ] zales is the diamond store. take an extra 10 percent off storewide, now through sunday.
michelle obama. >> all right. there you go. that's it for this edition of "the daily rundown." coming up next, chris jansing. have a great weekend. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] campbell's green bean casserole. it's amazing what soup can do ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove ♪ i'd have nothing to lose [ male announcer ] zales is the diamond store. take an extra 10 percent off storewide, now through sunday.
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president obama rejected the latest proposal from john boehner. the president and the democrats are focused on revenue and they are determined to make sure that the top tax rates go up. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks, for example, about $800 billion worth of revenues, but he says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> harry reid wasted no time explaining why the boehner proposal is not serious. >> math. you can't get from here to there unless you raise the rates. that's why romney couldn't explain it during the presidential election. no one can explain it because you can't do it. >> jay carney says the speaker's plans raises more questions than answers. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we're talking about in terms of actual legislation to increase revenues. it's magic beans and ferry dust. >> john boehner's heavy-handed approach to leadership, boehner and the republican steering committee kicked four republican congressmen out of the
president obama rejected the latest proposal from john boehner. the president and the democrats are focused on revenue and they are determined to make sure that the top tax rates go up. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks, for example, about $800 billion worth of revenues, but he says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> harry reid wasted no time explaining why the boehner proposal is...
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. >> is he right, perry? it's not physical but when? >> i think he's right about that. you're seeing a lot of republicans, billy kristol and others say that there's going to be about $1 trillion in tax increases. president obama won the election. he's pressing on that. now we're seeing tom cole of oklahoma and other republicans saying that let's get through this process and move on to the next issue. a lot of them have seceded this fight. president obama has a lot of refer rage. >> a lot of members in congress are talking about this but they don't really have any influence in it just looking at outside. not everybody is happy about it. bernie sanders, the independent from vermont, says that the senate needs to find a way to make its self more relevant and, you know, it seems like their question, david, is is this any way to run a democracy? >> this is the only way to get a deal. the members have a right to vote against anything that they are against. but there's no way that you can have a negotiation between two competing sides if you have one individual on one side and
. >> is he right, perry? it's not physical but when? >> i think he's right about that. you're seeing a lot of republicans, billy kristol and others say that there's going to be about $1 trillion in tax increases. president obama won the election. he's pressing on that. now we're seeing tom cole of oklahoma and other republicans saying that let's get through this process and move on to the next issue. a lot of them have seceded this fight. president obama has a lot of refer rage....
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we're coming right back. of ta. it's changing the conversation. ♪ or that printing in color had to cost a fortune. nobody said an all-in-one had to be bulky. or that you had to print from your desk. at least, nobody said it to us. introducing the business smart inkjet all-in-one series from brother. easy to use. it's the ultimate combination of speed, small size, and low-cost printing. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. republicans want democrats to do their dirty work when it comes to medicare. we know president obama offered $400 billion in cuts to medicare and other entitlement programs over the next ten years. here's andrea mitchell trying to get an answer from jason shabbets on where he has a problem with it. >> is your problem that it's not specified? or do you have to produce a laundry list before he comes up with his? >> that's what's unfortunate. speaker boehner is on the right track. i think he's shown a willingness to talk about things that we haven't been able to talk about
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you have just said the skunt a center right country and your evidence of that is that obama won? >> no, that's your evidence. >> what evidence do you have that it's center right? >> what i'm talking about is on the issue that is the conservative movement is going to be talking to the country about -- >> tacking the rich? they're against that. >> there are individuals out there that they can appeal to and my point is more broadly speaking that you cannot lump this -- what demint is doing and saying that all this gaggle of conservatives are going to be following behind it. >> i agree with that part. >> the split is much more than you think it is within the party. and so that's got to be reconciled to be honest about it. it's got to be reconcile and to your point and your question about what would i say? i would say, look -- >> you're center right. you think the country is like you. >> understand where the country is and that's where you need to be. >> rush limbaugh's show yesterday demint said conservatives problem is not their message. their problem is getting their message out. l
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fiscal issues. >> we're just here to support doing the right thing, putting america back to work. >> we don't legislate but we know a lot about what the consequences are of a failure to reach an agreement. >> only way democracy works is through compromise at the end of the day. i know no other way. >> i'm optimistic we can continue to work together to avert this crisis. >> our ultimate goal is an agreement that gets our long term deficit under control in a way that's fair and balanced. >> a reversal of fortune on wall street as stocks trade on fiscal cliff comments from president obama and john boehner. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. the white house has to get serious. >> republicans know where we stand. we've said it, we've said it, we've said it so many times. >> i think all of us today are confident we can reach a bipartisan agreement by christmastime. >> according to congressional republican aides who have talked to the "wall street journal," they say they have obtained a copy of the white house
fiscal issues. >> we're just here to support doing the right thing, putting america back to work. >> we don't legislate but we know a lot about what the consequences are of a failure to reach an agreement. >> only way democracy works is through compromise at the end of the day. i know no other way. >> i'm optimistic we can continue to work together to avert this crisis. >> our ultimate goal is an agreement that gets our long term deficit under control in a way...
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they have to find the right people to get together and negotiate. what they negotiate, it's fine with me. they just need to bring alan home and we're really advocating strongly president obama get himself involved in this to get him home. >> judy gross, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> and who's going to blink first in the fiscal cliff negotiations? our friday political package up next. first, the first dog is getting into the holiday spirit. the white house released video of bo making an inspection of this year's holiday decoration while the toy rep ply caf -- replica of boy stopped him in his tracks. ride to mouth fun-town. but it's not like everyone is going to break into a karaoke jam session. ♪ this will literally probably never happen. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if you can find better coverage, save money, or both. and check out the preventive benefits you get after the health care law. ♪ open
they have to find the right people to get together and negotiate. what they negotiate, it's fine with me. they just need to bring alan home and we're really advocating strongly president obama get himself involved in this to get him home. >> judy gross, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> and who's going to blink first in the fiscal cliff negotiations? our friday political package up next. first, the first dog is getting into the holiday spirit. the white house released...
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he's got to worry about being challenged from the right. so there are some political dynamics also. >> since you bring him up, let me talk about this "politico" article that's just out asking the question, can president obama and mitch mcconnell overcome bad blood? and it describes the frosty relationship between the two. one senior republican senator who asked not to be named said mcconnell views the president as, quote, unimpressive and thinks the president is not up to the job. i mean, what kind of impact does that have, john? if your point is that if you hear comments about boehner's brain, if you're hearing this on the other side, how much do these personal feelings get into these very important political negotiations? >> well, unfortunately, they do become personal. and i think that's not helpful to the process. i do think, however, this president is in a very unique situation coming off this election that he can demonstrate that he truly is going to work with everybody and not just use this as an opportunity just like he told the rus
he's got to worry about being challenged from the right. so there are some political dynamics also. >> since you bring him up, let me talk about this "politico" article that's just out asking the question, can president obama and mitch mcconnell overcome bad blood? and it describes the frosty relationship between the two. one senior republican senator who asked not to be named said mcconnell views the president as, quote, unimpressive and thinks the president is not up to the...
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so on the one hand, what the president is doing right here is sort of old news. presidents asking the public to bring the campaign beyond the election, to get their sfoerters involved in achieving the policy they want. on the one hand, presidents do that. this has been done before. this president in particular has done it a lot. on the other hand, after this re-election campaign, this may be tote little uncharted territory. nobody has ever had the kind of high-tech, robust connection to the individual human americans who voted for them that this president has. technology has afforded this president an ability that we have not seen before in terms of how it plays out in american politics. what remains to be seen is what he is able to do with that. joining us now gene robinson, an msnbc political analyst. great to see you. thanks for being here. >> great to be here, rachel. >> what do you think of the president's strategy to take this fight to the public? he has done this before. is this the right kind of fight? is this the right time to do it? >> well, it makes se
so on the one hand, what the president is doing right here is sort of old news. presidents asking the public to bring the campaign beyond the election, to get their sfoerters involved in achieving the policy they want. on the one hand, presidents do that. this has been done before. this president in particular has done it a lot. on the other hand, after this re-election campaign, this may be tote little uncharted territory. nobody has ever had the kind of high-tech, robust connection to the...
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it would resolve a huge chunk of this issue right away. keep in mind, the senate is sitting there and they have passed a tax cut extension program that the obama administration wants and it would essentially lay the groundwork for getting a quick fix to this fiscal cliff. they could then move on to the spending cuts portion. >> sam stein, "huffington post," good to have you with us. >> go giants. >> stop that. >> had to do that. >> giants are okay. i like the packers better. remember to answer tonight's question question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter @edshow and on facebook. we always want to know what you think. >>> coming up, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell says democrats need to raise the eligibility age for medicare? obama care architect dr. zeke manual joins me to talk about what will happen if the parties don't come to a deal. want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more... [ male announcer ] at humana, we understand the value of quality time and personal a
it would resolve a huge chunk of this issue right away. keep in mind, the senate is sitting there and they have passed a tax cut extension program that the obama administration wants and it would essentially lay the groundwork for getting a quick fix to this fiscal cliff. they could then move on to the spending cuts portion. >> sam stein, "huffington post," good to have you with us. >> go giants. >> stop that. >> had to do that. >> giants are okay. i like...
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has obama ended his war on whistle blowers? that's next. ♪ ♪ >>> all right. this week president obama signed the whistle-blower protection act, a genuinely landmark piece of legislation that both expands and restores a number of protections for whistle blowers. the bill, which has been fought for by whistle-blower rights organizations for over a decade passed both houses of congress by unanimous consent and was signed on tuesday. it was left relatively untrumpeted by the white house. up until now the obama administration's record on whistle blowers has been problematic. as they highlighted in an august document defending the administration's record on leaks, they have prosecuted twice as many cases under be the espionage act as all other administrations combined. the obama administration's history of aggressively prosecuting leakers has dissturkd lawmakers and activists from the left and right because of the essential role of whistle blowers in rooting out malfeasance. barack obama has managed to both prosecute a record number of leakers and sign genuine conc
has obama ended his war on whistle blowers? that's next. ♪ ♪ >>> all right. this week president obama signed the whistle-blower protection act, a genuinely landmark piece of legislation that both expands and restores a number of protections for whistle blowers. the bill, which has been fought for by whistle-blower rights organizations for over a decade passed both houses of congress by unanimous consent and was signed on tuesday. it was left relatively untrumpeted by the white...
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they figured they were going to knock obama out, it was going to be a different world. right? so they went home and said we will wait for the election. and let the people decide. we will be in charge after this eriction. guess what. >> that's what they did. and they lost. >> exactly >> bill: they got busted. they lost their ass. so now, they refuse to recognize there was an election. right? they refuse to accept the results of the election. >> you are completely right. beyond that point, i don't think they need the 80 tea party members to vote with them. they just need a coalition >> bill: you know what they need? they need to schedule a vote. >> exactly. >> bill: that's what boehner has to do. >> that's what he won't do >> bill: there is no doubt in my mind if he scheduled a vote at this point, enough republicans would join democrats to pass the tax cut for 98% of the american people. >> i completely agree with you. i think beyond that, if you put a vote right now on the floor to end sequestration, there will be a lot of democrats to come on board and a lot of republicans. wh
they figured they were going to knock obama out, it was going to be a different world. right? so they went home and said we will wait for the election. and let the people decide. we will be in charge after this eriction. guess what. >> that's what they did. and they lost. >> exactly >> bill: they got busted. they lost their ass. so now, they refuse to recognize there was an election. right? they refuse to accept the results of the election. >> you are completely right....
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"new york times" saying it's one on one right now with the speaker and the president yet some leading democrats are saying, no, that's not the case. that they are still involved in the process. what do you know about that? >> well, it seems to me it's a pretty close circle at this point. an awful lot of us have been involved in the bipartisan efforts for 2 1/2 years. we understand that it's important to give the president and speaker some space. those of us who actually have plans that were north of $4 trillion in debt reduction, we're ready to add our shoulders to the wheel at the same time. >> so pelosi is not involved at this point? >> i can't say what senator reid and nancy pelosi are doing. i think the main talks are between the speaker and the president. looking at plans like the simpson/bowles plan, the gang of six plan, they all included discussions with tax rates up at 39%, the '90s rates, what the president is requesting right now. my hope is the sooner the better. one of the things we're doing to the economy, we saw the jobs numbers. we're pretty good today. this economy wa
"new york times" saying it's one on one right now with the speaker and the president yet some leading democrats are saying, no, that's not the case. that they are still involved in the process. what do you know about that? >> well, it seems to me it's a pretty close circle at this point. an awful lot of us have been involved in the bipartisan efforts for 2 1/2 years. we understand that it's important to give the president and speaker some space. those of us who actually have...
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the obama administration is right they don't want to go into syria. they have avoided a u.s. military intervention but chemical weapons changes everything in the calculation. the a divisive and dangerous moment in the syrian civil war. >> it's scary, scary stuff. ambassador, i want to get your take on one other thing. secretary of state clinton had some comments about ambassador rice, someone who is speculated as her successor to secretary and of state. i want to play that for you. >> it's important to remember what susan said was based on the information that had been given to every senior official. in our administration. and she made very clear in her appearances that the information was subject to change, as more facts were gathered and analyzed by the intelligence community and looked, as often the case, our understanding evolved over time. and we've done our best to keep the american people and the congress informed. that was her goal. >> so obviously, secretary clinton offering a vigorous defense of susan rice, the context obviously being the attacks on benghazi and lib
the obama administration is right they don't want to go into syria. they have avoided a u.s. military intervention but chemical weapons changes everything in the calculation. the a divisive and dangerous moment in the syrian civil war. >> it's scary, scary stuff. ambassador, i want to get your take on one other thing. secretary of state clinton had some comments about ambassador rice, someone who is speculated as her successor to secretary and of state. i want to play that for you....
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is that the right strategy for the president? >> well i agree with senator lieberman. i've said that from the beginning. any time i was involved in a negotiation with the legislature over a bill, i got involved. that doesn't necessarily mean that i met with them personally. although often i would but it also meant that i was directing the flow and that my position was out there clearly. >> so why do you think for example that president obama hasn't done that yet? >> well because it worked for them in the first term. it was a key part of getting them re-elected. they never had to stake out difficult positions. but now it's the second term. he doesn't have to get re-elected. he's got to worry about what's good for the country. so i think he should lead, he should get out there and say look, guys, here's what i've seen what senator mcconnell wanted. here's what i'm willing to accept. let's get going. >> and i agree, he has to show that he's going to lead. but at the same time, while he was just re-elected, he is looking towards legacy and he does not want to start his sec
is that the right strategy for the president? >> well i agree with senator lieberman. i've said that from the beginning. any time i was involved in a negotiation with the legislature over a bill, i got involved. that doesn't necessarily mean that i met with them personally. although often i would but it also meant that i was directing the flow and that my position was out there clearly. >> so why do you think for example that president obama hasn't done that yet? >> well...
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voting again for president obama and electing a democratic senator. virginia is increasingly a moderate state. we're not in texas, my home state. if kucuccinelli were running in texas, arizona, even in georgia, these types of politics wouldn't just hurt him, they'd help him, but he's not. he's running in virginia, the land of whole food moms and dads. but at a broader level i find the cuccinelli race interesting because i think it might be a precursor to what we may see in the midterms and perhaps in the 2016 presidential election. we already hear some rumblings about perry getting back into the race, santorum -- >> oh, lord help us, no. please. >> i swear. >> please, no, not the return of rick perry. you cannot be serious. >> i swear to you. >> oh, lord. okay, jimmy, mr. cuccinelli, he sued over obama care, lost. sued the epa, lost. is there anything more dangerous to a political party than a leader who consistently picks fight he loses? >> how many times do you have to lose to be kaumd a loser. >> right. >> let's be honest about this, you have -- an
voting again for president obama and electing a democratic senator. virginia is increasingly a moderate state. we're not in texas, my home state. if kucuccinelli were running in texas, arizona, even in georgia, these types of politics wouldn't just hurt him, they'd help him, but he's not. he's running in virginia, the land of whole food moms and dads. but at a broader level i find the cuccinelli race interesting because i think it might be a precursor to what we may see in the midterms and...
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guest: as of right now, it would still be protected from taxation. that is something on the line as part of tax reform. with aaron,talking good morning. caller: looking at tax credits on this thing and one non be looking at reducing some of the extraneous taxes that are out there and then we get a tax credit for them? host: can give an example? caller: no, because i have somebody prepare my taxes. they are not a big amount. we're being taxed and taxed again, if that makes any sense to you. guest: that proponent of the tax reform talks about their so much in the code that is extraneous and unnecessary. to hold down to something less unwieldy than will we have today. host: mark on the independent line, hi. caller: i appreciate you taking my call. .'m 42 every time there is an election, therequartefour years, is a big squabble about the unfair taxation. many callers: and the fair thing would be everybody to pay an equal tax. nobody will be left felt that they are being taxed unfairly if everybody was paying the same. the port don't have to pay and the r
guest: as of right now, it would still be protected from taxation. that is something on the line as part of tax reform. with aaron,talking good morning. caller: looking at tax credits on this thing and one non be looking at reducing some of the extraneous taxes that are out there and then we get a tax credit for them? host: can give an example? caller: no, because i have somebody prepare my taxes. they are not a big amount. we're being taxed and taxed again, if that makes any sense to you....
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right. ♪ karl ♪ >> stephanie: karl frisch bullfightstrategies.com. ♪ so inciting to me ♪ >> stephanie: karl frisch what did you do to make news busters. >> good morning, you three, you are nothing but a common coat catcher, you two. i swear to god it sounds like a 1920s movies. >> you couple of coat catchers. >> stephanie: the gop also strangles puppies, pushes old ladies off of the stairs in her wheelchair, and tangles kittens. geez. karl frisch what did you do to make news busters? >> i'm not sure but they took offense to me saying republicans hate government and that's why they don't run it very well. >> but they hate government so that's why they don't run it very well. >> right. >> bill press said you can't be in washington without giving you opinion about whether or not we're going off the fiscal cliff, blah, blah blah. and i said the democrats tend to be the responsible party in terms of wanting to govern and then bill says because they hate it, and i say right. why would you
right. ♪ karl ♪ >> stephanie: karl frisch bullfightstrategies.com. ♪ so inciting to me ♪ >> stephanie: karl frisch what did you do to make news busters. >> good morning, you three, you are nothing but a common coat catcher, you two. i swear to god it sounds like a 1920s movies. >> you couple of coat catchers. >> stephanie: the gop also strangles puppies, pushes old ladies off of the stairs in her wheelchair, and tangles kittens. geez. karl frisch what did...